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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 18:15


Looks like Rob has had a Facebook rant.

https://www.facebook.com/FROSTYBALLZ/posts/153437804791423

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Lol, some of you folks are insanely deluded.

1) Bands don't make enough money to buy yachts. Very few DJ's do either. We sure as fuck didn't.

‎2) To the people claiming we're "sellouts" for doing KP instead of Pend - we walked away from festival offers 10 times the fees we're getting now, stopped doing promo, stopped writing verse/chorus structures and made bleepy laser stuff instead - with no vocals. We didn't send it to any radio stations, didn't make any music videos. Uploaded an entire EP for free. I'm not exactly sure how you can class any of that as "selling out" - we're doing exactly what we want to do.

Anyway... [defensive mode off].

Just realised this isn't even the Pendulum page, it's some guys wall. Sorry dude...lol

Okay well...we're not making it because it's popular. We're making it because we like it and think it's cool. Lots of other people do as well, which is why it's popular :)
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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 18:15


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read this
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/musicnews/s3526471.htm


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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 18:21


http://www.nme.com/news/pendulum/64394
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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 19:06


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So is the DJ set still alive?

On a side note, I haven't been here for years, who's still around?

I think so

On your side note, I am! Ash, Ollie and Ezeckial still are every now and then, and XenophunK came back today too! And Javapalava is still here... Not may other oldies...




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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 20:49


Already been posted. As to the future of this forum well that's up to Ollie. I know he has said that while the band took a year out that he was happy to keep it up. But things have changed.



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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 21:20


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And Javapalava is still here... Not may other oldies...


Wait, I registered 2 days before Javapalava but I'm not an oldie :smilegrin:
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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 21:22


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Already been posted. As to the future of this forum well that's up to Ollie. I know he has said that while the band took a year out that he was happy to keep it up. But things have changed.


I hope it sticks around. Or else maybe turn it into a Facebook group or something that doesn't cost nearly as much :thumbup:
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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 22:04


I really do hope the forum sticks around, even if I am relativley new. I think the facebook groups a good idea :)
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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 22:07


And I think im gonna post this now...I was hoping to finish it but just have not had the time, I was gonna share it if they started playing live again..but ehh.. I'll still work on it and get it finished, I dont think anyone else has gone into this detail:

http://pendulumliverig.webnode.com/

Basically a website explaing the full live setup in detail, half done right now, the main rigs pretty well explained.

Cheers guys
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[*] posted on 19-6-2012 at 23:03


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I really do hope the forum sticks around, even if I am relativley new. I think the facebook groups a good idea :)


This forum will ALWAYS be around.

I personally own it and all of its content. The biggest Pendulum archive of everything on the web since the live band started. Media clippings, videos, press, downloads, bootlegs etc etc etc. Its history and we are all glad to be part of that!





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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 00:53


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I really do hope the forum sticks around, even if I am relativley new. I think the facebook groups a good idea :)


This forum will ALWAYS be around.

I personally own it and all of its content. The biggest Pendulum archive of everything on the web since the live band started. Media clippings, videos, press, downloads, bootlegs etc etc etc. Its history and we are all glad to be part of that!


Thanks Ollie. I run a website of a band that has broken up and gotten back together several times... I've run that website for almost 16 years and I always keep it up even when the band isn't around. People will always be interested :thumbup:
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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 02:25


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I really do hope the forum sticks around, even if I am relativley new. I think the facebook groups a good idea :)


This forum will ALWAYS be around.

I personally own it and all of its content. The biggest Pendulum archive of everything on the web since the live band started. Media clippings, videos, press, downloads, bootlegs etc etc etc. Its history and we are all glad to be part of that!


Thanks Ollie. I run a website of a band that has broken up and gotten back together several times... I've run that website for almost 16 years and I always keep it up even when the band isn't around. People will always be interested :thumbup:


Awesome! I think this community is one of the best band communitys going. I dont see any arguing, I just see people talking about a band they really like and appriciating good music! I'm thankful I found pendulum 5 years ago and this site last year :thumbup:
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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 04:17


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the fact that there might be no live shows ever again hurts me to the depth of my soul, but there's nothing I can actually do about that.


Perfect choice of words. I never got to see them live, due to their sparse USA tours, but I watched the Brixton DVD like 6 times and I just imagined myself being there every time. I seriously got a sinking feeling in my stomach when I read Rob's tweet about no more live shows. :sniffle:

I will never see a Pendulum live show. Ever. That fucking sucks.

Well, at least we will likely see a record out in the next 5 years!


Hey, Heres some footage from their live set in Seattle a couple years ago. Pendulum Live in Seattle, Wa




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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 05:14


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I really do hope the forum sticks around, even if I am relativley new. I think the facebook groups a good idea :)


This forum will ALWAYS be around.

I personally own it and all of its content. The biggest Pendulum archive of everything on the web since the live band started. Media clippings, videos, press, downloads, bootlegs etc etc etc. Its history and we are all glad to be part of that!


Thank you Ollie so pleased x :)




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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 09:31


As rob has said, Pendulum as most people know it as "the band" may have split up and they arent writing music for that name any more. But Paul and Verse are still touring the name as DJ sets whilst Rob and Gaz go and do their own thing with KP as its something they want to do.

Cant put it any more simple than that really.

I think the sound of KP means it will never gain the lofty mainstream popularity of Pendulum which means that Rob may never come to resent it (as rightly or wrongly I think thats part of why he turned his back on Pendulum for now) which hopefully means Pendulum could be resurrected once its been forgot about a bit.

But for now they are enjoying making music and that can only be a good thing.

As Ollie has said PLC is the number 1 place (outside the official site) for Pendulum on the net and not bad for knife party either. It has a library of reports, media, videos, audio, discussion and a real community behind it. Granted its dropped off as the band have but all the content is still there.

Myself and Ollie still check in regular-ish to keep things ticking over, the community is for you guys so if you want to promote the site im sure thats not a problem with ollie?

Thats the nation address folks!

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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 13:23


Community spirit, thats what i like to see! We'll be around long after Knife Party split up, let alone Pendulum



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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 15:50


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Community spirit, thats what i like to see! We'll be around long after Knife Party split up, let alone Pendulum


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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 20:19


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After doing Knife party for two or three years I think going back to Pendulum will be such a massively refreshing change. Call me stupid but I still don't believe they will never do the live thing again. If they ever make another Pendulum record, I don't think they will be able to resist taking it out on the road as a live band again. A lot can change in a few years...


I agree. I think that in a couple of years they will want a change again, after they do Knife Party for a while, + they may again be interested about the whole punk album thing, and I seriously doubt that they would manage to do that with Knife Party, because it would sound better in Pendy style...
And, a lot of bands have a new record once in, for example 4 years, even before they said that they are concentrating on Knife Party, I wasn't really expecting a new record this year, or even in the first half of 2013. It just seemed a bit too much, as IS was released in 2008, and Immersion ''only'' two years later.
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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 20:44


http://www.pendulumnolongerlive.com?

Could tell this was coming for a while, however Rob has stated that they could do an new album... just not for a while.

It's clear that creatively Rob's heart is no longer into DNB, thus the change to KP, I would imagine JK Rowling was tired with the HP's when she finished it.

Ironically we all know he likes to wind people up with social media, so maybe someday he'll fancy doing some more and, like they did off the back of the success of HYC, he might fancy touring again.

Pretty much Rob does what he wants to do haha! Fingers crossed he'll get the inspiration/hunger to sit down and do some more.




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[*] posted on 20-6-2012 at 22:22


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http://www.pendulumnolongerlive.com?

Could tell this was coming for a while, however Rob has stated that they could do an new album... just not for a while.

It's clear that creatively Rob's heart is no longer into DNB, thus the change to KP, I would imagine JK Rowling was tired with the HP's when she finished it.

Ironically we all know he likes to wind people up with social media, so maybe someday he'll fancy doing some more and, like they did off the back of the success of HYC, he might fancy touring again.

Pretty much Rob does what he wants to do haha! Fingers crossed he'll get the inspiration/hunger to sit down and do some more.


Yeah it's really not a band split. It's Rob leaving Pendulum.
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[*] posted on 21-6-2012 at 09:23


Hi guys, I know I've not been around a while. Dropped in to see if there's any more news on the band at all. Saw this and had to post it, it's so similar to my opinion on the situation, and explains it far better than I could.

"So it seems Rob Swire is doing what I thought he might. He seems to have been slowly adding new bits of information about Pendulum’s situation, now telling us that there will be no future live band and there are no plans for an album in 2013. This may well be to cushion the blow to fans, or perhaps he himself hasn’t decided Pendulums true fate yet.
However at no point so far (despite a very inaccurate NME article: http://www.nme.com/news/pendulum/64394) has Swire actually said in these words “Pendulum are splitting”. Seems to me he wants to keep his options open for the future to make sure he can return to the Pendulum name once the interest in Knife Party dissolves.
Now don’t get me wrong, I have been a HUGE Pendulum fan. Been to the shows, bought the merch, done the forums, stayed up ridiculously late into the night to see album release materials etc (those were the days) and whilst this next part might sound like an attack on Swire, be assured that I respect this man and have done for many years. Recently however I have come to realise that I respect him only as a producer and musician and not for his personality or social communication ability. I am still quite appalled at Mr Swire’s reaction and communication to those Pendulum fans who are clearly gutted to see the band coming to halt. And why the hell shouldn’t they be? Pendulum has dedicated fans and followers just like any other musical outfit and when a band breaks up/splits/goes on a break (whatever we are calling this shambles) of course they are going to be upset about it. He however appears to see this as annoying, giving the impression people are living in the past. He has no right to complain about people bringing up Pendulum all the time. That is where you made your mark in the music world Mr Swire, not through this repetitive seizure house, dubstep hybrid you have created. Of course your fans will talk about Pendulum, that is where things started for them as well. Be happy that people ask about previous music you have made. Most of us in this world will never be blessed with talents to ensure we break through in todays music scene.
I like Knife Party as much as the next electronic music enthusiast. However for me (and this is just my opinion) there is nothing special about them. Nothing original. It’s just another jump into the already house/dubstep infested electronic music scene we see today.
To me, Pendulum had it’s originality, nothing was quite like them. Nobody had master an electronic band in the same way they had. And their music was done in a song written way. They had lyrics and vocals as well that in some way gave their music a bit of meaning. For me, with Pendulum you could feel something, where as Knife Party is just another way to enjoy a “sick drop”.
I am as sad to see them stop making music as any loyal Pendulum fan, and I will be waiting for the future and keeping an eye out. Keeping my ears to the ground. And if this is the end… “well, at least we took the ride.” "

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[*] posted on 21-6-2012 at 10:06


Fantastic read there. I agree with every word. Why does Rob have to be such a heartless douchbag to people? Incredible INCREEEEDIBLE musician, terrible person.

I seriously wonder if he has that many friends. He seems like a REAL bitch to put up with. Don't tell me that his tweets don't reflect who he really is :mad: He clearly has some serious deep-seated social issues. He's the only person I've come across who is both introverted and an asshole at the same time. He doesn't take pictures with fans or interviews (if he does he doesn't say shit) but can dish out plenty of "fuck you's" to fans on twitter (not to mention blocking them)


It bugs me. I just watched the Brixton DVD again, and he looks like such a badass on stage - then I remembered how much of a jerkoff he is to his fans :( Can't he just be normal? Maybe he wasn't hugged as a child? Broken home? What possesses someone to act like that?




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[*] posted on 21-6-2012 at 12:38


My take on the entire, comparing Pendulum and Knife Party, from my tumblr
Pendulum Vs. Knife Party

As I major fan of both of these bands, one stemming from the otherm I thought it best to put this in as early as possible

What with Rob’s recent tweets and Facebook posts about the end of Pendulum (but not forever) it seems that Knife Party will be the main focus for the next few years at least. Which isnt entirely a bad thing

Lets compare their music. Pendulum have had three albums worth of awesome, and Knife Party only 2 EPs. So we cant compare volume of work. But we can compare awesome-ness of the music. Anything with Rob’s vocals on is great, but not all of the vocal tracks are the best, for instance Girl In The Fire, an instrumental, is one of their best tracks PERIOD. That said, Witchcraft, Crush and The Tempest all have Rob’s vocals and are amongst the best Pendulum tracks ever. So Pendulum obviously have a lot of awesome tracks in their repertoire. But so do Knife Party, of the two 4-track EPs that have been released (And one single, bringing the officially released track count up to 9, excluding remixes) all but a few tracks have been absolutely incredible, and im sure that if we make a percentage of how many tracks from both bands are incredible compared to their entire number of tracks, Knife Party’s would be higher

And then there’s Knife Party’s unreleased tracks, so many good songs haven’t been released from their original Ibiza set (Suffer, The Box, Zoology) that they already have most of an EP ready for release now without having to write any new material, and they have other unreleased tracks that they have played live as well. So they have a promising release future

And now for the remixes. Pendulum’s remixes are remarkably good, if far between. I mean, we’ve had Voodoo People, Stay Too Long, Just A Ride (I still love that mix) and I’m Not Alone. Knife Party have already released four remixes of other peoples tracks, all epic, and VIP’s of their own tracks (And a VIP of their Crush On You Remix that rivals Centipede in pure brutality)

In all honesty, I cant decide between the two bands, if it was either or, I would be happy with either, but long for more of the other atthe same time. So for now I am more than happy to have only Knife Party, but before long I will be desperate for more Pendulum methinks. That’s what you get for being too awesome Mr Swire

This was inbetween uploading Centipede to my blog and complaining about Michael Gove. I run a fun blog! stroudy1.tumblr.com




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Myself and Ollie still check in regular-ish to keep things ticking over, the community is for you guys so if you want to promote the site im sure thats not a problem with ollie?


I've just realised, the Pendulum Live Tees Ollie got printed ages ago have slipped into my regular rotation of clothes without me noticing.




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[*] posted on 21-6-2012 at 13:56


You guys have all really hit the nail right on the head with your opinions of both the bands and Rob.

I, for one, am extremely grateful for Pendulum. They opened up a whole new world for me and changed my life in a zillion different ways. They helped me meet some people who I now consider some of my closest friends and helped me get through a nightmareish year that would make most people crumble and give up. Their music will always, always be extremely special to me and they're forever hold a place in my heart.

Knife Party is fucking brilliant too but it's not Pendulum and it never will be Pendulum. I love everything KP has done so far and I am more than happy to hang with them for the next few years. Their shows are awesome and their music is even better.

Rob Swire's big problem is that he's TOO talented. Everything he touches turns to gold. Even stuff he deems "not good enough" would make any of us weak in the knees I'm sure.

I don't think he likes attention, or "celebrity" or any of that shit. He certainly is in the wrong business for that, but instead of being an asshole to his fans, he should learn to deal with it. He really needs to have handlers or something to monitor some of his rants. :no:

That being said, I've met him one time and he was cordial enough to me. He was in a hurry but he still stopped to pose for a picture with me. I can't speak for other people so I don't know how often he gets asked for photos but he did it for me and that's all I personally care about :smilegrin:

I never understood how musicians are ashamed or embarrassed by what they have done in the past. All bands have hardcore, dedicated fans and Pendulum's fans are some of the most loyal and obsessive that I've ever seen. Someday he WILL appreciate us and hope that we're all still around. He says he doesn't care but how can he just not care? I think he's just angry right now and wants to be left alone and people aren't letting him.

Will he come back to Pendulum? If he had to make the decision right now, it would be a definite no, but who knows what the future holds? We can always have hope :)
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